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Dear Dave Mustaine,
It is impossible for me to express how much you can go get fucked by a bear in a hole somewhere. Truly you are the skin tag of the world, hanging on to the scene many feel you helped create by the filament-thin thread of a few semi-decent songs. You are dog shit after a light rain.
However, these statements are simple knee-jerk opinion, and do not accurately explain why I have come to hold you in such low regard. So allow me to pontificate on your rankness by taking your recent public comments, one after another, and dissecting them, so as to illustrate what a pathetic dickrag you are.
Let’s begin with your support of Republican politician and right-wing Christian Rick Santorum. Your political support alone is not something I can find fault in—people have opinions, many of which I think are ridiculous—but your explanation for your support is absolutely ridiculous. Your claim is that you stand behind Santorum because he left his campaign to be with his sick daughter. To your credit, this is a noble action on Santorum’s part, one that I can’t fault. With that said, it’s a stupid reason to support a political candidate, especially one who stands for good old-fashioned Christian-based American politics, a man who has said that the separation of church and state makes him nauseous. You are supporting a man who would have the majority of heavy metal music outlawed for the simple reason that he performed a basic action of human kindness. This, to me, implies that you don’t know shit about shit about politics, and that you’d rather blindly follow someone who warmed your heart once than take a look at the full span of his opinions.
Which brings us to your comments on African women you have seen on TV, who you claim should “plug it up” because they have more children than they can support. To begin with, this comment is insensitive as Hell, as you know, and touches on nothing about these people’s culture other than some gut reaction to what you have witnessed from the comfort of your living room.
Next, let’s look at this statement in regards to your politics. Never mind the fact that this insensitivity far outweighs any warm feelings that emanate from your appreciation of Santorum’s fatherly instincts—you’re are supporting the political candidate who wants to outlaw the plugs. The easiest way for these women to have fewer kids is the widespread use of birth control, which Santorum himself would cease. Abstinence and virtue are nice ideas, but these African women probably have plenty of Bibles, and that doesn’t seem to have helped them. More importantly, these women have no say in their reproductive rights in this part of the world–their husbands do. They live in a society where men get to control the bodies of the women around them, judging which behavior is right and wrong.
You know who else supports such a society? Your candidate. This proves that not only are you heartless bordering on sociopathic, but you continue to lack all understanding of the cause you’re supporting. I can only assume you’ve been a rock star for so many years that you now think that your acclaim is enough of a reason for you run your mouth. I can assure you that this is not the case. No matter how many records you’ve sold, you’re still a jerk.
Finally, there is your most recent comment about whether or not Barack Obama was born in America. I’d like to start by saying that I, personally, don’t think it matters. Obama grew up in America, went to school in America, and has supported the people of America. What soil he was birthed on doesn’t mean a thing. America is a country where something as simple as where you were born doesn’t matter—a free man should be judged for what he does, not for who he is, and a truly free and just American understands that. You are, therefore, in mind, a disgrace to your country. More important is your question of why Barack Obama was “invisible” until the 2008 election, which I can only answer by saying, Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? Obama’s been around for decades, you just weren’t looking for him so you never saw him!
According to your logic, we should be questioning the birthplace and history of Sarah Palin as well, because until the 2008 election I had no clue who she was, because I wasn’t paying attention to her. You may dislike the Obama administration, and I can forgive that even if I don’t agree with it—that’s what being an American is all about. But I don’t forgive ignorance, which is different, from mind, than a lack of book smarts. I don’t care if people would rather watch Modern Family than read Catch 22, I just ask that they don’t try to then talk about the book like they have any fucking idea what’s going on. If you are going to come out with a public stance on something like politics, you need to illustrate that you know what you’re talking about.
Which leads me to my final point: You are a role model for a lot of people out there, whether you asked for that role or not. I’m not a huge Megadeth fan (and even I’m writing some fucking letter to you!), but I know dozens of people who are, and all you’re doing is either shitting all over their love of you or urging them to make uninformed decisions and opinions. You are currently in support of ignorance, and that’s not cool. I remember watching you at the end of the second Decline of Western Civilization movie, when Megadeth was stood up next to so many of these idiot hair metal bands to illustrate that, no, not all of us headbangers are that stupid, and yes, some of us want to create art to support something bigger, and more human, than ourselves. I respected you then. Now, seeing a picture of you puts a shitty taste in my mouth.
My advice to you is to either learn enough to be informed when you’re talking about politics (and maybe grow some tact—that ‘plug it up’ thing is more awful than words), or shut your fucking pie-hole and just be a musician. Right now, you are an example to people everywhere that heavy metal fans are just what they’ve always said we are . . . hostile idiots who run their mouths about things they’re too lazy to understand. Either prove them wrong by being informed in your conservative views, or do your job and play your fucking guitar.
Sincerely,
Scab Casserole
Somebody still pays attention to what you have to say, Dave. Mission accomplished.
That’s all I could think as I read a few sentences of this link bait crap and scrolled all the way to the comments.
This was practically a non-story a month ago. A nearly irrelevant metal guy has misinformed and largely uneducated views. Wow. Shocker.
You just made a Mustaine of yours ; talking without knowing. Maybe you should’ve read entirely..
”Which leads me to my final point: You are a role model for a lot of people out there, whether you asked for that role or not. I’m not a huge Megadeth fan (and even I’m writing some fucking letter to you!), but I know dozens of people who are, and all you’re doing is either shitting all over their love of you or urging them to make uninformed decisions and opinions. You are currently in support of ignorance, and that’s not cool. I remember watching you at the end of the second Decline of Western Civilization movie, when Megadeth was stood up next to so many of these idiot hair metal bands to illustrate that, no, not all of us headbangers are that stupid, and yes, some of us want to create art to support something bigger, and more human, than ourselves. I respected you then. Now, seeing a picture of you puts a shitty taste in my mouth.”
I’ve never met a Megadeth fan (or been one myself) who actually thought of Dave Mustaine as a role model.
Not in his drugs-and-stupidity days, and not now in his sober-and-stupid days.
Give him moar drugs yo.
Agreed. end of discussion. yo
What do you mean he hurt your feelings? He didn’t know you had any feelings.
Hey, if there was a new way, he’d be the first in line…
I’ve loved Megadeth since Peace Sells first came out…sure the road has been rocky with some dodgy albums in the 90s but I do believe from System onwards he’s written some damn good stuff again. But fuck me Mustaine is making it embarrassing to be a fan lately. He’s rapidly becoming the laughing stock of the metal community with some of his ridiculous comments, I agree it would be for the best if he just lied low for a while and let his music do the talking.
Though Mr. Casserole may feel in his heart that its okay for a non citizen to be President, the law does not agree, and Mr. Mustaine will be pardoned for not considering Mr. Casserole’s personal political fantasies when forming his own opinions.
you’re not helping anything, the entire point is that Mustaine’s off base for believing this.
the question of place of birth and citizenship are not the same though
ah, ignore me, i’m not American and am not au fait with the issues
While I agree with ol’ Scabby on his opinion of MegaDave, in fairness I must point out that Santorum never said that he wanted to outlaw contraception. He has made plenty of questionable and bone-headed statements, but that wasn’t one of them.
Now, rage on!
Come now has anyone ever wanted to be a french citizen?
::raises hand::
damn replied to the wrong comment
I was gonna say, while I didn’t follow his campaign (because he was always an irrelevant distraction), I also didn’t recall a basis for “… a man who would have the majority of heavy metal music outlawed …“.
Is there a specific basis for that in anything Santorum actually said?
You’re right about Mustaine being an idiot who runs his mouth without understanding. But would you have written this about the Mustaine of 20 years ago? Or about Greg Puciato? I doubt it. There is not a single celebrity whose political opinion matters. The only ones who should say anything about it are comedians–and then only if they say it in a funny way.
I think that where Obama was born DOES matter . . . it’s in the Constitution for good reason. However, the birthers miss the point that all he needs to do is “prove” where he was born. The proof is pretty convincing. Nobody has ever taken it to court to decide what standard of proof is necessary, but it seems Obama has proven it beyond a reasonable doubt. Your counter-argument about Sarah Palin makes no sense if her parents were US citizens, as they presumably are. But technically, I don’t think the VP (or VP candidate) has to be a natural-born citizen. The presidency would just pass over the veep if it came to that. I’d look it up but I’ve got to wrap this up.
I want to make a point about the beauty of our law which grants automatic citizenship to people born in America. This law drives home the point that we are a nation of place and law, and our people are defined by those things and rather than by blood. If you look at nearly any other country in the world, their citizenship is based on blood. French citizens are of French blood. That’s antithetical to American values.
But Obama is a black Muslim socialist from Africa!
MIND BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN
French citizens aren’t of French blood. Their president is of Hungarian stock. Millions of others (of Arab, African, Polish, etc. backgrounds) would also dispute this. The only people that believe “Frenchness” is in the blood are folks like LePen and his idiot right-wing followers.
Sorry, let’s go with German.
nope, let’s not go with Germany … a large number of citizens of non-German decent would strongly disagree. Many of those hold dual citizenships.
But it is true that Germany still does not grant citizenship automatically to everyone born within our borders. Give it a few years …
I know Wikipedia may not be the most reliable source, but it says 81% of people in Germany have no immigrant background, i.e., they are purely German. 10% of the population are citizens of an immigrant background, which includes everyone who has at least one immigrant in their ancestry.
Also, “German citizenship is based primarily on the principle of jus sanguinis. In other words one usually acquires German citizenship if a parent is a German citizen, irrespective of place of birth.”
Sorry, but it looks like German citizenship is still mostly based on blood. It does appear to be changing somewhat, which appears to be a direct result of the European Union. The general nationality law training I had a few years back must have been based on some outdated and over-generalized information (the discussion of European nationality laws was used only as a springboard for discussing jus solis and jus sanguinis, and wasn’t discussed for its own sake).
the problem with the whole birther nonsense is if multiple campaigns (and reminder that this was started by the clintons) with oppo research staff- people paid specifically to find this stuff out, with far more resources and money than a handful of internet cranks relying on the vast archives at freep and wookiepedia couldn’t prove anything, then why are the internet cranks given the time of day.
But would you have written this about the Mustaine of 20 years ago?
I would, if I’d have written this (I personally would have written neither).
Mustaine’s always been an idiot when it comes to politics; that’s not a horrible failing, since lots and lots of people are idiots about politics. The only problem is that as a musician he insisted on occasionally telling us about his stupid opinions as if we cared.
(“Whaddaya mean I can’t be the President of the United States of America?” … well, Dave Of The 80s, I mean that nobody’s gonna vote for you because you’re a junkie.
You can be President, legally. Practically, though, not a chance.)
Stop the
MadnessMustaineTo play devil’s advocate – I do wonder if on the same side of the coin should Tom Morello be equally castigated for his political views and endorsements[?]. As people are allowed their stupid opinions in America, so are stupid letters regarding said opinions.
Morello is another idiot. Albeit one with a Harvard degree. In one of RATM’s albums they band went as far as encouraging support for a peruvian terrorist group, one that killed thousands of civilians. In a recent article on Rolling Stone he walks around LA with the writer and sees a protest going on, without hesitation or without even getting informed on what that’s about he jumps in starts protesting. That’s what he is about he says…
This just in: Renowned model for good judgment, tact, and maturity Dave Mustaine says stupid things.
Next up: The weather.
Hahaha. Fuck yes.
good one. Mustaine is a douche, conservative, born again idiot. We need more hate like this in IO.
To be fair, Mustaine’s always been a moron, I remember reading him being booed heavily in Ireland on the ‘So far’ tour as he was spouting off some ‘facts’ about the troubles he’s been told him and hadn’t bothered checking… at least then he had the excuse of being a smackhead.
But cretinous politics aside, the crime of tainting Rust In Peace is really unforgiveable.
I agree with FMA.
My take on this is twofold.
One: even more reasons to pirate Megadeth records and not buy them.
Two: Art quite often needs to be protected from the artists that create it. Dave is dragging down his own legacy by over-speaking instead of creating more art.
Other examples: George Lucas, Metallica, Lars von Trier, Vincent van Gogh (eg: the whited-out painting)
i’d say every post-countdown to extinction record toes more to drag down his legacy such as it is than whatever dumb things come out his mouthole
*does, not toes. toes doesn’t make any sense
People are rarely this let down by people they don’t really care about. I once wrote a letter just like this one to Will Wheaton in 1988. How dare he ruin Star Trek? Anyways, Dave has let us all down & I feel everybody’s pain.
Mustaine the thinker: nope
Mustaine the artist: oh yes please
For the most part I must agree with the points made here. Except for the birther thing that is. If it can be proven that Obama wasn’t born here then he should never have been a candidate. But I think he was born here and the entire birther issue is a manufactured conspiracy brought about to distract the people.
All this being said about Mustaine (and perhaps he is an extreme example), I think all musicians should STFU about their political opinions. Especially metal musicians. I’ve always thought about metal as being an escape of sorts. A place where every-day issues, be they political issues, or bullshit trends, don’t matter anymore.
I’m not saying musicians shouldn’t have their own opinions or beliefs. I don’t even care if it shows through in their songs/lyrics. But it’s a real turn-off when a musician goes off on a political tangent between songs in a live setting. The first offenders that come to mind are Anselmo’s between-song rants with Superjoint Ritual, and this one time I saw Otep. I’m not even a fan of Otep, but she completely lost me when she started talking politics between songs. I just thought to myself “hey, were at the ozzfest to see see metal, and nobody here gives a fuck about your politics”. I used their set to go refill my beer. I may have even agreed with her points if I had listened, but again that’s not what I was there for. Besides, whether you agree with the artist or not, injecting specific and modern political points into your set is a great way to divide your fan base over a matter that wasn’t even on their mind when they bought a ticket to your show.
when i went to Ozzfest in 07 and saw Chthonic, they were very openly political about the struggles they had as Taiwanese citizens at the hands of china and the UN.
It really endeared them to me, and generated a lot of energy during their live set. I guess this is a huge part of their lyrics, so… you know if you’re a political band why not get ranty as long as it doubles as a crowd pump-up.
Otep’s music is incredibly political. Are you saying she should just sing her politics and not discuss them in between-song banter?
Yeah pretty much. It’s one thing to express your thoughts within your art, and maybe introduce a song with a brief description of what the song’s about and why you wrote it. But it’s another thing all-together to go on a 5-minute+ rant in between songs. Especially in a festival type scenario on the 2nd stage where most of the people there are not there specifically to see your band. Seems like poor use of stage time to me.
Fair enough.
Full Metal Attorney, the VP has to be able to be eligible to serve as president, so they’re bound by the “natural born citizen” rule. I don’t agree with the requirement (but then I’m Canadian, and any citizen is eligible for PM here), but I like the irony that McCain actually wasn’t born in America — he was born in Panama to American parents, I think on an American military base?
that’s correct
After looking at Article II again, you are correct. The rest of my point stands.
Don’t get knocked up at Megadeth concert, we are already overpopulated as it is…
http://www.fuse.tv/2012/04/help-find-the-man-who-impregnated-woman-in-megadeth/motorhead-concert-bathroom
Is this how low IO has stooped? Mustaine has been saying crazy things for years and this isn’t worth anyone’s time. The article is rife with childish profanity and just seems altogether unprofessional.
Best thing I’ve read on here since Cosmo left.
Mustaine is an idiot. And his band sucks.
“You are dog shit after a light rain.”
Funniest insult of all time
This article is really stupid. Everyone knows Mustaine is a crazy, writing about politics on a metal site is an incredibly poor choice, the amount of name calling is incredibly unprofessional. This really is a worthless article that gave no reason whatsoever for me to want to read it. You are fundamentally missing the point of what people want from metal journalism.
To an extent I agree with you. I wish the article would have gone after all the musicians who want to play pundit. As the above commenter noted, metal is an escape. It’s not punk. While I’m thankful for a lot that punk has given metal, politics is not one of them.
This is hilarious and clearly proven wrong by some of the comments above.
EVERYTHING is political – get over it.
Also, how can something be unprofessional when they don’t get paid for it?
Your last sentence doesn’t mean what you think it means. You really should have said something along the lines of “Of course it sounds unprofessional, they do not get paid for it, and are therefore not professionals.”
However, that’s mostly irrelevant. You know exactly what I meant when I said that, even if I could have been ever so slightly more specific. You are just being contentious, and it is childish.
I thought about pointing out that disconnect . . . but I thought it was funnier just to leave it for people to see on their own.
Oh dear – concern trolls are concerned…
This dude has always been a brain damaged moron, and he can’t write more than three good songs an album, and he hasn’t even done that in 20 years…fuck him either way!
Thanks for writing this, Scab Casserole. I’d been thinking IO needed a piece along these lines (though you forgot the part where he said he wouldn’t tour with gay people or Satanists: http://www.noisecreep.com/2012/03/18/dave-mustaine-satanists-gays/). His behavior/statements in recent months make me never want to give him another dollar. As a woman in particular, the fact that he supports candidates and ideas that threaten women’s rights and security is particularly offensive.
As a Megadeth fan, I have mostly been OK with Mustaine’s doucheness, thanks to my ability to separate a person’s work from his/her personality.
Recently, however, the overpolitization of his lyrics has become a problem for me. The guy is still a riff-machine, always has been, but I can’t help but be really annoyed when a song with an awesome musical base is ruined by cringeworthy political lyrics. Now the artist’s personality has infringed too much on his work.
Listening back, I hear the lyrics of songs like “Symphony of Destruction” and “Peace Sells”, and they’re pretty exhaustive on the political theme already. The guy nailed it right there and then. But his insistence on milking the political throughout his latest albums successfully managed to deprive his music of artistry and alienate a large chunk of his audience, myself included. And it’s not so much that I disagree, really. In fact, he and I can actually agree on some things. It’s just… enough with the same-old already!
P.S. Quoting the post:
“Truly you are the skin tag of the world, hanging on to the scene many feel you helped create by the filament-thin thread of a few semi-decent songs.”
Woah there. Perhaps not the best way to start.
Yeah, I understand the author was angry, but saying things like “Few semi-decent songs” just makes YOU look ignorant and uninformed. Write angry, then proofread when calm heh.
this is really rather good but for the 7th paragraph were birtherism is given too much due. by now it’s probably not a good idea to give their ideas the recognition of a counter argument.
oops, i meant ‘where’
1) I was never a big Megadeth fan, and Mustaine’s been a douche.
2) Political music is tough to do well. Lots of people seem to want to go for the rational angle, putting a “message” into songs, and at its worst, it’s pedantic and dull. At best, well, there’s all kinds of good protest music. Most of that contains a hook and deals with feeling and experiences stemming from political experiences, rather than an explicit “message.” If all else fails, get over on pure rage.
3) I wonder if there’s really a tradition of protest music within metal. I mean, there are general lyrical tropes – war bad (except when good), religion bad (except when SATAN), conformity bad, PMRC very bad. I probably missed some, but I can’t think of any more concrete examples of protest within metal off the top of my head. And I think doom metal about mining disasters or death metal about labor riots or black metal about hunger strikes could be really powerful, no joke.
i did this
http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2011/12/metal-as-protest-music/
Okay, so I was pretty much completely off the mark on my third comment.
Still wanna hear some doom metal about a mine disaster.
Totally. I’m way into mining disaster songs, such as this one, by early Bee Gees:
http://youtu.be/KCRqAzCevsY
Or it’s barely related deconstruction by Barclay James Harvest:
http://youtu.be/_Xgd2ENLa3c
I’m sure Mournful Congregation could do it much better!
Isn’t that what music is for? An artistic exertion of your opinions/thoughts/feelings? Mustain, write a fucking album about it bro. That seems to be what you’ve proven yourself to be good at. Keep your fucking mouth shut otherwise. Do you have some hate and anger built up about what’s going on in the world? Crank out a fucking heavy metal album and get it off your chest. Otherwise…. I couldn’t agree more with most of this rant. You are a socially out of touch, uninformed prick spouting bullshit out your assface.
No.
I would like to see an interview with Mustaine where someone with even a rudimentary academic background in Christian theology puts him to task explaining how, given all the “ideas” he’s expressed in his music over the past almost three decades, and given all the people he must have spent time with during that period of his life, his conversion to Christianity has manifested itself with him being a 100% garden-variety, American-media-styled, corporate, consumerist, Libertarian/Republican CHRISTIANIST. Since there are about a millionty different paths he could have taken, why this one? It’s awfully suspicious…
according to his autobiography he grew up as a jehova’s witness so nutball make shit up as you go along theology is already something he’s comfortable with
I think you just explained about all I need to know!
In other
newslink bait, Kristian “Varg” Vikernes is a racist douche bag.Yeah, but his good-album-to-shit-album ratio is way better than Mustaine’s.
Perhaps Dave’s “Saturday Night Palsy” has morphed into an everyday sort of palsy where his mouth drools out inane uninformed right-spew. Oh wait, that’s a rehab ploy called religion. My bad. Perhaps that’s similar to what afflicts Ted Nugent, Gene Simmons and Axl Rose too. Either way, it seems to be a fatal case of insufferable prickdom.
If anyone has any attention span left you can watch the following interview with Mustaine form March of this year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJdF1y-96w
I personally don’t know about Obama’s citizenship, but what we do know that he did attend school in Indonesia, an Islamic country, when you had to be an Indonesian citizen to attend school in that country http://www.wnd.com/2008/08/72656/ so questions do remain.
Hahahahaha no. No questions remain. None. NONE.
And Mitt Romney worked as a Mormon missionary in France. Oh boy, maybe he’s a secret sleeper agent of the French?!?! Because your logic Mike V makes about as much sense as that.
Pretty spot on. Except Obama can go to hell.
“I’m going to sit down and write an open letter to Dave Mustaine”
Today I learned that there are people who still support the Obama administration.
I’m starting to feel like this is 2004 all over again. I believe that’s when South Park did the turd vs. the giant douche bag.
@oceanmachine – And damn happy about it.
The article itself could have picked stronger reasons to crticise Mustaine, and in turn connected back to that bigger issue for music/literature/movie fans – “love the product, hate the producer [of said product]“. Wagner was a douchebag, Varg is a douchebag, etc. so why is only Mustaine getting criticised? He’s now a hypocrite whenever he performs his older material, but why should he be the only one given an open letter (which does little to address other issues that are wrong with him)? Is one’s lack of political understanding at a time when a country is going through an upcoming election process really the main reason to tear into a figure like Dave Mustaine, when there are likely other reasons to do so (which don’t require an American, political context in the first place)?
OK kids, let me start by saying the article should have been titled “This can happen to you”. You wanna know why? Because Dave exibihits all the bad symptoms about getting OLD. That’s right, someday you too will (hopefully) grow old. And you don’t want to be like Dave (FWIW, Dave was always like this, it just looks worse now that he’s old). Here’s some tips from yours truly on how to avoid senility and the stinging wrath of youth commentary as you wrinkle your way down to that final dirt nap:
1. Keep an open mind. Worst thing that can happen as you age, is that you become more and more set in your ways. Harder, brittle, more conservative. This is a bad thing. It’s bad for yer brain. There’s lots of evidence on this, but its really boring, so just trust me (read some Carl Jung writings from his older years if you need to).
2. Go out and socialize. Believe it or not, hanging out with people that uplift, inspire you, or just make you laugh is healthy. Don’t plant yerself infront of the TV or internet for hours at a time. Don’t retreat to your mancave or spend days, sometimes months in your home w/o seeing real, fresh, humans, face to face. Fresh humans, not the ones with the expiration dates tattoed on their foreheads. You know, the downers.
3. Engage people. Ask people about their opinions, ask how they are doing, listen actively. Care. Swear to god, some of the stupidest old people I’ve ever met, are the ones that don’t care about anyone but themselves. How did they get that way? Hell, I don’t know!
3. Be active. Wait, there are more than 3 of these! Yeah, I don’t know, I’m old. Sue me. Then go out and hike, jog, swim, whatever. Get active in local community, politics, arts, whatever. Be a Dom if that makes you happy. Just do it an keep doing it (in a healthy way of course). As you get older, you’ll find you’ll need to do more of it just to maintain.
5. Be informed and make up your own goddam mind. Wisdom for the ages.
Now carry on, my wayward sons (and daughters)…
Regards,
David
Kind of a pointless article, in my opinion. It’s one man’s rant about a man who likes another man. IO has a good reputation that’s getting better, but this didn’t do much of anything except recruit more r/shreddit fans that are still stuck discussing how awesome fucking Equilibrium’s “Sagas” is. Santorum, Obama, Mustaine, Palin… they’re all jokes and should have nothing to do with a metal site. Not to mention none of the people mentioned deserve any attention, whatsoever.
Dave Mustaine is absolutely one of the best guitarists in heavy metal, hands down. To be fair, let’s not forget this.
He found god, became a conservative and moved to Arizona to hang out with his idol, born again conservative Alice Cooper. Note this kids, addicts who replace politics/god for their smack are even bigger assholes then they were before. Also, he’s in Arizona… a state priding itself on kicking out brown people and saying life begins TWO FUCKING WEEKS BEFORE conception. Only Florida comes close to topping the levels of crazy going on there (and both places are filled with old retires…. hmm, it all makes sense now).
And here’s another thing. I bet if you got at him about it, Dave Ellifson probably isn’t too far off from the crazy either: http://loudwire.com/megadeth-dave-ellefson-studying-to-become-pastor/
Dave was much better when he was a fuck up. I’d never encourage anyone to become a junkie, apart from Dave Mustaine.
Dave, get back on the drink and drugs. You were less offensive and made better songs.
Mustaine and Peter Dolving both needs to have their internets taken away. Noobs.
How come Gorgoroth has never remade “Looking Down The Cross”? A gay satanist doing a devilish Megadeth song would be awesome, awesome, and more awesome. God bless Diamond Dave.
An open letter to…. Scab Cassarole?
You have made your deep hatred for- mr. mustaine, mr. santorum, religion, republicans(conservatives as a whole really), the right of certain americans to have opinions and express said opinions( those who oppose your liberal views it would seem) very apparent.
I am an athiest, a metalhead, a percussionist, and I am a conservative republican. After reading your “knee jerk” reaction to mr mustaine’s words, and after reading your, anti-what you think is cool manifesto… I feel I must explain some hard truths to you. Such as a majority of african tribes are not christian- they do not own bibles, nor even know what such a thing is. They have,their own religions/beliefs. Many of these tribal communities practice arranged marriages, sending young girl (7-8 normally) off with grown men, some elderly. These young girls tend to have multiple babies before they are 15. As for birth control, It has its place. And all becouse mr. mustaine supports mr. santorum, does NOT mean he supports every stance mr. santorum has. You see- most of us humans were born with free will, and being as such we are able to make decisions in our own. Most of us, as I said have free will. You seem to follow the obama liberal agenda blindly. That makes you a pawn, someone incapable of independant thought. Sad.
I would continue, but thinking of things such as you is the one thing that really can make me sad. Go hang yourself.
Godspeed and the devils thunder,
Kristopher Force( real name)
P.s.
- see, I have the balls to not be anonymous, you may even advertise my email(that is if you advertise yours)!
I heard he plays in a band too
“I am an athiest, a metalhead, a percussionist, and I am a conservative republican”. Kris Force, nothing says ‘I am an independent thinker’ more than the opened minded and independent words of ‘I AM A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN!! NANNY NANNY POO PANTS!!’ I am sure you are proud that you wrote a well worded reply, and congrats on that, but you are undoubtedly convinced your right about most things. I can assure you that this assumption is wrong. Dead wrong. One can only hope that the final statement of ‘go hang yourself’ was you speaking on the edge of the chair with the rope secured as the Siri on your ifuckPhone10 transcribed your ‘things to do today’ list on the calender function. In which case the Metal world sighs in relief. Goodnight soldier, no shame in checking out early.
Sorry it took me so long,to reply maam, for my paychecks are earned- ya know by work. I am sorry if you do not understand that concept, but I am happy to hear your government cheese has supplied you enough for an the new iphone! I am so excited!!! stoopid ole me havin to pay my own way on my old lg ally. And shame me for actually being intelligent enough to spell…
Tell me yolanda, exactly what did I say that was wrong? I would very much like to know. For know I will review a previous statement, and we will see if I went wrong. (it’s not like im some stuck up liberal who hates and tries to berate anyone who disagrees with thier skewed view of the world.)
I previously stated that birth control has it’s place. You say im wrong. My point, (being wrong of course), is that sometimes pregnancies are not in the best interest of anyone involved. Take you for example, if your grandpa had provided your aunt w/ the morning after pill, then you would not be thier little disgrace. In such extreme cases like yours though, I would even be ok with abortion, even late term ones(up to whatever age you presently hold).
And as for the hanging comment, I feel that to be the best way for you to perform your “abortion”. I am sure you will make your grandpa/daddy, auntie/mommy super proud by achieving what they could not.
besides being blatantly racist & classist, Mr. Force, you’re clearly terrible at proofreading because, despite nagging Rfish about his/her spelling, you misspelled “independent” in your original post.
now please go back to fucking your inflatable-Reagan doll you miserable skin-tag.
My misspelling was actually commented on by rfish, talking about iphones and siri. so, check ur facts. I am going to go out on a limb and guess you are a democrat. Exactly how am I racist? How am I classist? I would emplore you to define where I have been racist. Stating a fact, like a majority of tribes in africa are not christian is not racist. Calling someone yolanda is not racist. Saying I work is not classist. If someone is getting goverment support and has the gall to spend that tax payer subsidized income on a brand new iphone, and me thinking that is wrong as a tax payer is classist, than I,guess you are right. But by calling me racist by me PROVIDING A PROVEN FACT, what does that make you?
not sure what siri/iphones has to do with spelling, but that’s beside the point.
calling someone “ma’am” & “yolanda” reads like an attempt to belittle (since most commenters here are male) someone’s masculinity. your diatribe about “gov’t cheese” and welfare, combined with your completely unnecessary “yolanda” remark, betrays just how much you’ve absorbed right-wing race-baiting without questioning it. apparently you don’t know recent history very well (I don’t know how old you are), but loony anecdotal ravings about “welfare queens” were all the rage under Reagan & Bush I, used as a tactic to scare white people. these anecdotes were all disproven, btw, just like the “crack baby epidemic” was.
so my sincerest apologies, Mr. Force, for offending you with what amounts to a case based on circumstantial evidence. I work, too. I’m taking a break at work now. I’m not a registered anything (I lean Socialist), but I will vote for Obama again (who, I can assure you, is most definitely not a Socialist).
also, since you’re a taxpayer, do you ever claim deductions on your taxes? because those are a form of gov’t subsidy, my friend. anyway, I don’t plan on trying to reason with you further, you’re clearly an unreasonable, reactionary person. take care [when your inevitable heart attack strikes].
Now I do not know how old u are, or how well read u are on current events, or historical events in general. Apparently, you are not as well read as you believe. Race baiting is a classic democrat move since johnson was president. The republican party was formed to combat slavery and racism from the democratic party. While eisenhower was president, he worked closely with mlk, having many face to face meetings in the white house working on civil rights. Eisenhower actually proposed the first civil rights bill, that democrat heroes johnson and kennedy both opposed(the same exact bill eisenhower tried to pass and was,vetoed on). Look into the history more and you will see that even while kennedy was pres he would not pass civil rights initiatives. Johnson passed the eisenhower civil rights bill (renamed ofcourse) and claimed it as a democratic win for minorities, all the while democrats STILL refused integration in the south. Still to this day, democrats race bait, and dumbasses like you follow theyour idiot leaders and newscasters and blame all evil on the repubs. What has obama done? Got bin laden? would he have gotten bin laden if he had kept his campaign promises and discontinued bush era policies? Absolutely not. Every time a democrat fucks up, their media support lambasts a republican as a racist. Look at how brietbart was treated. Look how allen west is treTed, a black republican, who is constantly slurred upon by high ranking dems(wasserman-schultz for instance), and do ppl like u ever defend him? No, instead of defending the open blatent racism towards west, u call him a sexist… You are all hypocrites. And you, saying I am “race baiting” by calling a man maam, or yolanda is an absolute example of race baiting. i was raised calling every woman maam. yolanda in not an exclusively black name either, it is racist to assume that I was beimng racist
ugh
(slams face into desk)
As I was saying, assuming I was being racist is racist in and of itself. By implying that maam is a exclusivly black term is racist, just as assuming yolanda is an exclusivly black name. I was admittedly being sexist, borderline classist, but racist is you bud. Democrats do not have exclusive branding rights of what is racist either, and by thinking you do, what is that? And yes, I have spellimg mistakes, sorry maam.
Damn, for someone so smart u get frusterated easy
Tell me im wrong, on ANYTHING and I submit you research your arguments.
I did, and you changed the focus. You ranted about “government cheese” and handouts, while name-calling. To me that instantly signals the Reagan-era “welfare queen” race baiting (I know the history of the Democratic party, I don’t need a lecture on it, and it’s not germane to this particular debate), which is why I said “reads like”. Sure there are plenty of white women named Yolanda, but when one combines that name with the other attributes you listed it sure comes off as racist. Obviously you don’t think so, but comes off as racist to me (primarily b/c one never hears white people ragging on other white people for being on the dole, it’s always white people complaining about non-whites).
also, in the midst of your evasion (the source of my frustration), you failed to answer my question about tax deductions.
Every response I have given is relevant to this debate, given how,this debate started with 2 other ppl before u, and u picked up thier arguments, to the best of your mediocre abilities, and now you try and fall back sayin u know, but if you knew anything, then you would see that your argument, again, is racist. As you said, yolanda is not exclusivly a black name, and for you to suggest the term maam is racist in the context given is beyond stupid. if we go by your standards, next time I hear someone say miss and jenny I will assume it is racism towards a white woman. Seriously maam, you democrats always act so sensitive and constantly try and bend everything to your boohoo, poor m
Me attitude, it is pathetic.
And you failed to answer my question about your skewed view of racism.
1) You fail to comprehend that racism is a power issue. Blacks in America (or, frankly, anywhere in the West) cannot, by definition, be racist. They can be bigoted, but they can’t be racist.
2) Context is everything, nothing happens in a vacuum. If you hadn’t made those other condescending remarks then I wouldn’t have inferred your statement to Rfish to be racist. You’re correct, on their own none of your statements were racist. Taken as a whole, in a particular historical context, I can infer veiled racism.
3) Your history of the Democratic party’s race-baiting is immaterial to the debate between us because my comments directly follow your engagement with Rfish. (Who is the other person you’re addressing? Scab Casserole?) My statements deal with a very specific series of incidents (re: welfare-queens & contemporary race-baiting by conservative public figures) which created the context in which I read your remarks. (To which your citing of Breitbart wins you no points, since he is a prime example of a race-baiter).
4) The Republican party as it exists now – ideologically speaking – has almost zero in common with the party of Eisenhower. You are correct in asserting that JFK & LBJ opposed the civil rights bill (b/c Southern Dems opposed it, therefore they could get nothing else done in Congress due to filibustering). Again, that has nothing to do with what I perceived as veiled racism on your part.
5) If you sincerely didn’t mean your statements as racist then I believe you and sincerely apologize. I still find what you said incredibly ignorant, and your classism & sexism don’t win you any points with me, but you have a right to believe whatever macho nonsense you want.
I’m only going to interject a few things into this discussion.
1. Being a conservative Republican does not make one a sheep any more than being a liberal Democrat does. (This is mostly for Rfish.)
2. Yeah, there was definitely some veiled racism in your (KF) comments. It doesn’t affect the validity of anything else you said, though. Calling someone “racist” doesn’t invalidate everything they say, even on racially charged issues.
3. You’re both getting bogged down in minutiae. Who the fuck cares if there are white women named Yolanda?
4. Tax deductions are not equivalent to the dole. Deductions allow you to keep your money. The dole lets you take it from someone else.
5. Total respect for letting your real name be known. I have far more respect for people who do this. I still respect others, except those who don’t even use a consistent screen name.
6. Socialism is just as stupid as any other political ideology. Too much political ideology is one of the reasons our country is so fucked up. Boo hoo, we can’t stop giving free money to the poor. We’ll tax the rich over my dead body. One side saves the poor, the other the rich, because that’s where they both draw the line. And the middle class–who make democracy possible and have therefore made this idiocy possible–are the ones who are fucked. Why can’t politics be about pragmatism? Tax the rich, screw the poor (except in cases of true, verifiable disability), make it easier for everyone to go to school or get jobs, free health care for all, regulate those dicks on Wall Street and the oil companies humping our economy, and gun rights for everyone.
End rant, end my involvement in this discussion.
I have never listened to the guy speak. I just want to hear him sing and play guitar.
You have taken him out of total context. Enough said.