
I’m a pistonhead. When I’m feeling witty and subversive, I refer to myself as a petrosexual. In plain terms, I just love cars. I love driving them, looking at them, talking about them, listening to them. I can listen to a car motor and tell how many cylinders it’s got, and how it’s been aspirated. Any metalhead who can tell the difference between a vintage Sunlight production and a vintage Studio Fredman recording understands what I mean, even if they can’t tell two motors apart by sound.
Cars are a nearly universal subject in the First World. I can talk to Susie Soccermom, Bobby Bureaucrat, and Donny Drifter about their cars, and still enjoy an engaging and entertaining conversation. Susie really likes her SUV’s cupholders and metallic paint job. Bobby thinks his car is reliable, comfortable and gets good gas mileage. Donny likes that his Silvia’s got a totally sick JDM SR20DET swap, brah. Doesn’t matter to me, it’s all cool. I understand all three ways of thinking about cars.
Susie, Bobby, and Donnie and their lines of thinking are quite literally the reason why it doesn’t matter how many fests and EPs Scion/Toyota sponsors. Metalheads and their automotive choices are going to fall into one of the three categories of behavior, none of which will be particularly affected by Scion sponsorship.
Susie Soccermom is the metalhead who completely does not care what he or she drives, but instead buys based on an emotional feeling that centers on one or two factors independent of brand. If a Scion has the best cupholders, or a Honda minivan lets her lug the most stuff around, that’s what she buys. Susie, like many people, doesn’t even know that Scion is a Toyota product. She thinks they are funky-looking cars that are, for some reason, almost exclusively owned by old people.
When Susie buys metal, she’s going for specific emotional criteria: Trouble is really doomy but Electric Wizard is too noisy. She doesn’t know or care what label Immortal is on, she’ll just buy an Immortal album because it’s an Immortal album, and she likes Immortal. Nobody can predict Susie’s tastes in music because it’s totally arbitrary – she can’t even predict it herself. Susie makes a lot of blind purchases and often buys on a recommendation, which could very well happen when she goes car shopping. Susie hopes you like her taste in music, but she’s not dedicated enough to argue about it, so long as you don’t go out of your way to insult her. She’s not a conformist, but she’s following her heart wherever it takes her.
In all fairness, Susie is the metalhead who will most likely be affected by the Scion sponsorship, simply because it makes her aware that the brand exists. Toyota is a very smart company that looks years ahead when planning products. It spent more than 25 years steadily grinding the Detroit Three into the dirt by taking the long view. Scion sponsorship will make metalheads aware of the brand’s existence, and Toyota will be satisfied with that because it’s part of a business plan with far-reaching goals. Where this whole plan might backfire on Toyota is that Susie could wander into a Scion dealership, think that the xB has dumb taillights or costs too much, or whatever, and then head on over to another manufacturer’s dealership. Susie might also actively dislike Scion because she decides that a corporation sponsoring heavy metal isn’t cool. She’s just too fickle to be a surefire investment for a big corporation.
Bobby Bureaucrat is the metalhead who is largely immune to mainstream forms of advertising. He browses a few specific websites for music recommendations, but he’ll still listen to samples or pirate an album before buying. He has a very clear understanding of what he likes in terms of genre, or within a genre itself. He does a lot of research. If Bobby ever makes a blind purchase, it’s a band that he really loves, or a site that he totally trusts, but these situations are few and far between. Word of mouth does carry weight with him, but again, only as long as it’s a trusted source.
Website ads, gear sponsorships in albums, music videos and recommendations on streaming or music purchase websites don’t matter to Bobby. He’s too knowledgeable and too dedicated for those types of advertising to affect him or his opinion. Bobby is by and large a stereotypical metalhead, and probably represents the bulk of metalheads. He doesn’t much care what you think about his taste in cars or music, because he knows what works for him, and that’s all he cares about.
Scion’s sponsorship will fail on Bobby, because he already knows that Scion exists and that it’s a Toyota product, and those facts don’t matter to him. He’s going to do research on price, features, reliability, and so forth before buying, and he’s not going to rely on biased advertising to make his decision. Bobby’s not a total machine, so there is a slight chance he’ll buy a Scion based on perception, but most of the time, if Scion makes the best product for Bobby’s criteria, Toyota’s getting a sale. If another manufacturer’s product fits Bobby’s needs or wants, Toyota’s shit outta luck.
I’m a Donny Drifter both when it comes to cars and metal. Donny is a total metal nerd. His mp3 archive is meticulously archived and tagged. He can articulate the difference between prog-death and tech-death, and he’s happy to argue with you about it. He can rattle off every Iron Maiden song in order for every Iron Maiden album. Donny will not buy an album based on advertising or reviews. He’s going to make up his own mind, song by song and album by album.
Donny buys a car based on his exhaustive knowledge of cars and very specific technical criteria that most people neither understand nor care about. Donny would buy a Lancer Evo IX because it’s a raw, angry rally car for the street, but he won’t buy an Evo X. Sure, Mitsu finally gave American fans the trick torque-vectoring AWD system, but the Evo X got fat and relatively soft in the process, so Donny doesn’t want that bullshit. Donny buys a used first-generation Honda Insight because it’s still the hyper-miling champ if driven properly, and not a bloated toad like the Toyota Prius. Donny hates Toyota, and therefore Scion, because he thinks Toyotas are boring and reliable transportation appliances for people like Susie who don’t care, or for people like Bobby who have no automotive soul because they don’t like the right performance figures.
Donny knows most Century Media releases are crap because Century Media sold out, but he’ll still investigate each album because that’s how he’s mentally wired. Donny will download 15 obscure black metal albums to get that triumphant feeling of finding an obscure gem. Donny is attracted to the stats of cars, and will state his opinions on metal in a factual way, but all of this occurs because he’s attracted to the data in an emotional sense, rather than a purely pragmatic sense. Stats aren’t just a means to an end, they’re a way of validating what he feels; he can be irrational but he’ll still fall back on the ‘facts’. They’re also his way of proving that he’s right and that you aren’t.
Scion’s efforts are totally wasted on a Donny. When he buys a car, his choice is either going to be well researched and logical, or based on extreme emotional appeal dictated by specific stats. Sponsorship will achieve nothing with Donny, nor will advertising in general. Scion sponsorship is likely to alienate Donny because he doesn’t want a big corporation getting involved in his scene.
To compare a metalhead buying a car to a mainstream person buying a car, we need to understand why advertising will work on mainstream consumers. Most mainstream car buyers are a mix of Susie and Bobby. They will buy based on shallow research regarding a few features, along with anecdotal stories and general perception. Toyota has been successful with these people because it has steadily built up the perception (and, generally, the reality) that its cars are reliable and high quality. Catering to the lowest common denominator with cars works. It’s why the Toyota Camry sells in massive numbers, but a specialist car like a Mazdaspeed3 or Camaro SS doesn’t. The metalheads that attend Scionfest are not the lowest common denominator; they’re listening to the equivalent of a specialist car, not a Camry. Appealing to tiny niches is not a recipe for massive success in either the recording or automotive industries.
Not only that, I think that about 70% of metalheads are Bobby, 20% are Donny, and 10% are Susie. Metalheads are too dedicated, too nerdy, for advertising to do much in any aspect of their lives. We like the deep, the esoteric, and the obscure. Toyota misunderstands how we think, or understands us and is nevertheless betting that all of the heavy metal Bobbys won’t extend their methodical thought process to buying a car. In other words, they’ll magically morph into Susie at the car dealership because Scion has bought itself some cool.
Between Scionfest, paying for a few EPs, and the corporate business process to conceive and administer all of it, Toyota has to have spent a few million dollars on the sponsorship project. According to Kelly Blue Book, the dealer invoice on a base, automatic 2011 Scion tC is $19,041; that’s what the dealer pays Toyota for the car. The companies that I’ve worked for have all aimed for 30% profit on a sale, so that’s $4,410 per tC. If sponsorship actually sells 1,000 tCs to us, Toyota will already have a nice chunk of change. The problem for Toyota is that, by my estimation, 90% of our scene won’t pay much attention to the sponsorship, but we might buy a Scion anyway for unrelated reasons. Right away, that is tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, of people on whom the campaign was wasted. The remaining 10% are so fickle and arbitrary that Toyota is gambling against unknown odds at making sales. A few million dollars is a rounding error for Toyota, but I have literally no idea how the company can determine if the Scion A/V campaign is working. Do they ask that question when a person buys a car?
However, Toyota bets long, remember? This campaign isn’t trying to recoup its cost quickly. It’s trying to make us loyal to Scion so that we keep buying one every five years, which will really ring the cash register for Toyota. Unfortunately for the big T, our mindsets are either too methodical or too random for any car brand to really take root. If the Toyota people asked me, I’d tell them to go spend their money at a college or high school. Toyota got huge by playing for the lowest common denominator and never losing sight of a long term goal, so why fish for sales in such a tiny pond?
Just to be clear, I’m not concerned that Scion is sponsoring heavy metal. I’m actually in favor of it! My understanding of the Scion-band relationship is that the band puts a few Scion symbols on their EP or stage, Toyota cuts a check, and there’s an understanding that the band won’t record a song called “Corollas are Worthless Odious Detritus”, or slag the company in the press. The chances of most metal bands specifically criticizing Toyota are virtually nonexistent even before they get involved with Scion A/V. The relationship so far between band and brand is very, very shallow. When the bands are paid middle class wages directly by Toyota to do nothing but record and tour, I’ll start getting upset. If a band truly objects to corporate sponsorship, they can avoid Scion entirely, or stop accepting money and go back to the traditional or internet era recording industry business models. Who are we to know why Enslaved accepted Scion’s money? We don’t know the truth of their hearts. Anything we say is just idle speculation until Enslaved comes out and states they’ve sold out, so why worry?
If our bands aren’t selling out and we aren’t going to be affected by the advertising, why are we so angsty about Scion sponsoring anything metal-related? There will be a few exceptions where Scion sponsorship actually sells a car to a metalhead, but metal is going to benefit more from Toyota than vice versa. Let’s be honest about this: the old recording industry and labels are dying. There just isn’t much money for bands to spend in the studios. During the Renaissance, when humanity’s greatest artistic works were created, the composers and painters and sculptors were sponsored by rich patrons, cities, and the church. There was no other reasonable way for a Renaissance artist to put bread on the table, and yet their work still has immense artistic and emotional value. If it worked in the Renaissance, why can’t sponsorship by third parties work now for heavy metal?



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“When I’m feeling witty and subversive, I refer to myself as a petrosexual.”
Immoral!
that was an incredibly thought out article, very enjoyable to read, thanks. I’m a donny. I don’t like scion or toyota.
@dunkelheit I’m a donny much to my detriment. I may give toyota a chance again when the new fr-s or whatever the hell they call it gets released.
Yeesh, my eyes glazed over after about four or five paragraphs, can someone paraphrase for me? (I skipped to the end, but the final paragraph seemed to negate the article’s title/intent)
I agree with the above comment completely. I guess I just too the whole Scion sponsorship as “hey look, we sponsor artsy fartsy stuff” and not so much about buying cars. Companies do things for a variety of reasons. The Ford Foundation sponsors music and the arts, and so do all the rest. I like the way the music videos I have seen are produces and I have thoroughly enjoyed the free EP of Enslaved sponsored by Scion. I am glad someone at the company seems to be tuned into the word.
I genuinely couldn’t care less about who sponsoring what. It could be Tide To Go doing a metalfest and I’d be happy that there was that extra money behind it to make it that much better. I never really got the kids crying “sell out” over these sort of things.
so what’s your point? Scion/Toyota is wasting money. And? Who cares? Free shows and Immolation EPs are always welcome. The only thing I took from this article is that you really like cars.
He can articulate the difference between prog-death and tech-death, and he’s happy to argue with you about it.
See, that’s how I know this is fiction, even as an analogy.
Because no human being can do that.
I’m pretty sure I can. AND MAYBE I WILL, IN THESE VERY PAGES.
Perhaps a more accurate blog post title would’ve been ‘Why I Don’t Really Mind Scionfest’
These are good arguments and in theory you should be completely right. Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe scion has one of the best promotion expense to income ratios of any of the car companies out there. They’re obviously doing something right.
I’m not sure about Scion’s advertising to income ratio. What I can tell you is that in the dedicated autoblogsphere, Scion’s purpose and lifespan have been repeatedly questioned. All signs are that Toyota isn’t winding the brand down anytime soon.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/05/facing-downturn-scion-turns-to-metal-to-move-metal/
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2004/07/scion-tology/
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/01/scion-the-brand-with-no-purpose/
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/01/scion-too-young-to-die/
Interesting observations and conclusions. The whole Scion funding endeavor has been on my mind for a while, so it helps to see it articulated. Can you guys somehow pull an interview form one of the Scion marketing people about this? With everything you’ve posited in this article, WHY Scion/Toyota is doing all this is confoundingly baffling to me. I’d love to hear the reasoning straight from the horses mouth.
I thought about doing this, and I wonder if we could make it happen.
I’m late to reading this, but isn’t advertising tax deductible? (and why the pharmaceutical industry spends so much more on adverts than R&D [which is not a deductible expense])
so this is likely a way to write a bunch of shit off and try to look cool to as many know-nothing consumers as possible.
“My understanding of the Scion-band relationship is that the band puts a few Scion symbols on their EP or stage, Toyota cuts a check, and there’s an understanding that the band won’t record a song called “Corollas are Worthless Odious Detritus”, or slag the company in the press.”
You forgot the part about bands not saying anything about the J00S.
great essay. cool that you ended it with the tie-in to the renaissance’s funding.
also, my boy gets this hook up and he said that a bunch of dudes who work at scion are legit metalheads. so it’s more like when you go to a pizza shop where your friend works and he gives you some free slices and a free pop. except millions of dollars, and the pizza shop is the toyota corporation.
“He can articulate the difference between prog-death and tech-death, and he’s happy to argue with you about it.”
To which I’d say, “Shut the fuck up, Donny”
Oh, and I believe I shall now write a song entitled “Corollas Are Worthless Odious Detritus”
We could totally do a death metal car-influenced album. Songs like Hammer-Smashed Fascia and Where the Scions Live. Like Cannabis Corpse, but…Car-cass! Alright, I’m going to go sit in the corner now.
Car-Mic Keys To My Kia-tion and Times
If there’s a long term plan in action it’s most likely to build a general awareness of the brand within niche markets. They also do this heavily with dance music / dj culture (by sponsoring house parties), where their cars are a more natural fit. And the other day I noticed they’re branching into more mainstream (pitchforkian) indie stuff as well.
I’d say I’m a Donny when it comes to music, beer; and music gear, but I’m a Bobby when it comes to cars. Digging deeper would lead to more debt than I already have, I’m afraid. For now my Mazda3 hatchback fits my needs quite well.
I’ve been involved with a lot of Scion sponsorship and I’ve payed attention and asked a lot of questions. I cannot speak for them, but I can give my two cents.
To a certain degree, the company simply has the funds and wants to sponsor some artistic endeavors, and a third party is directing them towards extreme metal. That is LUCKY for us and the bands. It is exactly the sort of patronage that is keeping our scene alive and thriving. Sure, we’d still be around anyway, but seeing Ludicra on tour or hearing a new Immolation ep is not a loss for anyone.
But another aspect that’s crucial in this chain is “association”. That is to say: while Sue, Bobby, and Donny may not be easily influenced, more often than not, these underground metalheads are very influenTIAL on their friends and peers. The guy who spends all day talking about tech-death and hot rods might also mention that he got the new Enslaved ep FOR FREE and saw Morbid Angel FOR FREE thanks to Scion. So I think there’s a really intelligent angle in reaching to some of the most impervious underground audience–and particularly with its taste-makers. As soon as you have a car company affiliated with Neurosis, Wolves in the Throneroom, and Agalloch–you have created a new brand awareness and given it blessings from some of the most respected musicians in the world. That’s smart business, even if it’s hard to see how it directly translates into sales.
You’re entirely right about the influence part. I have to believe that’s what Toyota is counting on. The problem, as I said above, is that it’s so difficult to measure. Toyota might stick with it for years, but if GM had tried this, I can see a GM bean-counter exec slashing the program on the basis that the investment to profit ratio couldn’t be calculated.
Much as I love them, GM would never do this.
Honestly, it’s not very expensive for them to stick with this scheme. I’d guesstimate that for all the money Scion has invested in the metal scene to date, they could have made 3 broadcast tv commercials.
Interesting. Had no idea a car company would have an “Artistic Endeavors” department
It feels like one of those too good to be true things which makes this so perplexing. If what you’ve deduced about association is true, that’s certainly one hell of a long view plan.
The reason Im so fascinated about this is because Scion has presented one of the very few real solutions to the piracy issue and provided a no bullshit option to the question of “How can professional musicians continue to make a living off music in the 21st century?”. It’s as much of an “out of the box” solution as it is an “out of left field” one.
This seems to me to point to the problem with Scion fest: they’re not trying to sell cars to metal heads. Instead, they’re populating the community space of extreme metal in order to give a legitimating association to their brand.
Grindcore is known for its legitimacy and authenticity. You don’t just whack on autotune and punch a few buttons – grindcore requires sincerity and commitment. And that is what the brands are after. By connecting the brand to particular communities like grindcore, the brand gets the legitimacy of the community, which is then used to sell the car to a particular buyer.
Think of Pabst Blue Ribbon here – how did they get their revival? By association with the hipsters in the early 2000s. And if you think i’m seeing conspiracies, think of the fact that the word scion has been used 57 times on this page alone.
Really….. so even half of all the Grindcore albums made weren’t Grindcore by the numbers?
When I bought my ‘71 Ford in high school, it came with a free Atomic Rooster 8-track. Talk about long-term goals!
hahahaha !!!! i’d buy any car if it came with an atomic rooster 8 track !
What the fuck are you talking about?
jesus christ the quality of this website has really fallen off ever since cosmo left. i know a lot of people will get butt hurt but my god this blog has jumped the shark. Susie Soccermom, Bobby Bureaucrat, and Donny Drifter seriously how about Henry Hybrid who drives a Prius and is a member of the Green Party and listens to Wolves in the throne room.
Jumping the shark is an understatement. It jumped towards the end of Cosmo’s run, but the new stuff is garbage. This used to be an oasis from blabbermouth commentary, but the allure proved stronger.
I think there is more cuteness for cuteness’s sake here than there used to be, this article being a good example. It’s not good writing to me. I feel like it honors the writer’s desires over the reader’s. To each his or her own, I know, but I feel like IO could use a little more lily and a little less gilding.
Don’t like it? Contribute yourself. Get off your ass and quit whining or put up and shut up.
the only thing that jumped the shark and is starting to inch towards youtube territory is the comments section. that is of course only my humble opinion, but the negativity is really sad, i feel like i’m on the decibel forum sometimes.
Offering criticism, not whining, is a form of contribution. I’m not sure how I can contribute to IO otherwise, mainly due to being off my ass working on a thousand other things every day. I like this website and I like to give input on what I read here. I don’t see putting up and shutting up as being a worthwhile way of interacting with things I like and respect.
I have a huge penis, so I ride a bicycle… fancy cars are for morons with small penises, the donny has the smaller penis of the bunch, even the susie beats him in size (susie, suzie, suze, size – see? even the name choice wasn’t random, on a subconscious level the size issue is always there) I rest my case…
I feel ya, Goo.
I still resist. Something about corporations dictating/influencing/extracting my tastes even in the subtlest (read: cleverest) manner doesn’t appeal to me in the least. As a consumer, I choose to vote with my dollar, and therefore avoid corporate products as much as I can, and by extension, anything chooses to associate with or attached to said product(s). I agree it’s good for bands, and bands can do what they like. However, I see a future where that’s the only option available, and generation by generation it will become so entrenched as to be invisible and rarely questioned. At Nate Carson stated above, the $$$ corporations spend is probably miniscule, but it’s a win-win for them on the cheap, getting bodies and eyes in and on their products. Nobody commenting on this forum can say that ads, and advertising, is not increasingly and specifically micro targeting now–with Facecrack and Twatter its more possible than ever to target lifestyle ads suited to every fucking life niche possible. In fact, I’m more surprised that advertising even works anymore, given the mind numbing amount we’ve all been subjected to. I’m not terror crazed nut, a paranoid conspiracy theorist nor a raving mad ubercapitalist. I’m just a skeptic, a music loving skeptic and a person saying ‘no thanks’ to music with strings attached.
what the fuck is a car
What about me? I’m always searching for new music (though not necessarily through blogs, but for a few notable exceptions— I’ve got other means that are far more interesting to me), but I’ve driven the same ‘89 Camry station wagon since I was 17 simply because it works and requires little maintenance, and what little it requires I can do myself. So I’m not entirely sure my driving tendencies fit my music listening habits, probably because to me music and driving are completely different things. I’m not too big on Scions though, I like a car with a tape deck.
In that renaissance painting, Michelangelo actually painted a self portrait of himself as just the skin of a person, because he felt so sickened with himself by painting it and selling out. Just saying.
tl;dr
Scion does not only sponsor metal. Their most recent release is an EP by garage rock legends Reigning Sound and they recently also released this dance compilation with artists like Burial and Actress.
It’s pretty obvious why they do this: these artists bring a lot of reputation for a ridiculously low amount of money. You can get 10 legendary underground music acts for the price of 1 b-choice movie or sports star. And maybe the names of these artists don’t mean much to the general public, but they are well known to early adapters. And these are the people you want to have talking about Scion, even if it is in articles like this.
Will it work? The article says it won’t, but Jägermeister used to be a drink for old people and look where a similar ad strategy got them.
The point about the Renaissance is a joke right? I think some folks outside Europe might have to dispute the ‘when humanity’s greatest artistic works were created’ comment.
I think Scion sponsors a lot of music types, not just metal. I have no problem with it at all. I DO have a problem with anti-capitalist, socially aware bands gladly taking a handout from a big corporation. Practice what you preach or shut the fuck up.
If they haven’t already, my guess is cars will start coming with hard drives built in with a ton of music that you can listen to (sponsored by the company).
I don’t own a car. Never have, probably would never afford one anyways. I take the bus or the el and ride a bike (that’s not a fixie) when it’s nice outside.
When I lived in Boston I used to rock the carless lifestyle — headphones blazing, book in hand, thuggin’ it up on the T. I miss those days!
These days in LA having a car is not only a necessity, it’s a large part of my job. Despite the expense I kinda love it — whenever I’m cruising around I’m in my own personal bubble of metal. Stuck in traffic? I blast death metal. Coasting along a highway at night? I throw on something expansive and heavy. With a fiance at home and normal folk at work, the car becomes my escape. Life is good.
A lot of guitar and amp builders started as car buffs, and hobbyists. There’s a direct connection with tinkering, customization, hot-rodding your rig, that comes right out of the classic car scene. There’s also a shared vocabulary: ‘vintage’, NOS (new old stock), etc.
David
Unfortunately I have to agree with Comstock. I don’t even feel comfortable making a legitimate response to what R Street-Jammer has written here. I feel like I’d be responding to the know-it-all in my high school class. The ideas are great, the delivery is not.
Writing on IO isn’t supposed to feel pretentious. No one cares if you’re a Donny Drifer….no offense.
Very well-observed. And well-written, too. The following sentence confused me, though:
The metalheads that attend Scionfest are not the lowest common denominator; they’re listening to the equivalent of a specialist car, not a Camry.
“Oof” to my nonexistent XHTML skills.
Holy fucking pretentious, run of the mill, hipster metal article.
A major global company sponsors metal shows and someone finds a reason to complain. Take your stupid shit to Pitchfork.
This is Toyota we’re talking about here. They’ve been on the leading edge of a lot of things within the business/operatiosn realm from Just-In-Time delivery to Kaizen costing. If they see worth in this, they’ve calculated it somewhere to the very specifics.
Being a Donny Drifter sounds like you indulge in too much shitty music unable to figure out what works.
The article needs editing, but I think it’s an interesting take on the whole Scionfest hubbub. I’m a Bobby Bureaucrat because I like metal too much to be thoughtless about it but I also don’t have the time to be singularly obsessed with it. I’m okay with that.
Honestly, about two-thirds of the way through the article, I started thinking about the idea of patronage. In this day and age, why not? It’s not like the old models are still working, and they were possibly even more exploitive on average. Fanbases and things like Kickstarter seem like a natural fit, too.
And I thought Invisible Oranges’ demo was better. You know, back before anyone heard of them.
paging jay randall.
this article is poorly written & so boring. i think i hate metal heads way more than toyotas.